Anyone know of any fabricators that can do some custom IC piping welds?
09-22-2006 | 03:13 AM
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Anyone know of any fabricators that can do some custom IC piping welds?
Does anyone know of any fabricators that could weld "coated" IC pipings? I have the Perrin sign. model red piping and want to do a blowthrough maf setup on my car. Basically consists of welding the MAF onto the IC piping and welding the BOV before the MAF sensor. If someone could help me out, i would pay extra because its been months of downtime and i wanna see what my car can do.
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09-22-2006 | 03:20 AM
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Just out of curiousity, have you considered the implications of your choice?
Welding the MAF onto the I/C piping would be sending hot, pressurized air/exhaust gas through the MAF, which would, in theory, give the computer false readings, causing it to lean out (intake temps too high).
Placing the BOV BEFORE the MAF sensor? Is this to de-pressurize the system before it reaches your MAF (and before it reaches your engine)?
Just curious if you can explain this to me.
Welding the MAF onto the I/C piping would be sending hot, pressurized air/exhaust gas through the MAF, which would, in theory, give the computer false readings, causing it to lean out (intake temps too high).
Placing the BOV BEFORE the MAF sensor? Is this to de-pressurize the system before it reaches your MAF (and before it reaches your engine)?
Just curious if you can explain this to me.
09-22-2006 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Roo
Just out of curiousity, have you considered the implications of your choice?
Welding the MAF onto the I/C piping would be sending hot, pressurized air/exhaust gas through the MAF, which would, in theory, give the computer false readings, causing it to lean out (intake temps too high).
Placing the BOV BEFORE the MAF sensor? Is this to de-pressurize the system before it reaches your MAF (and before it reaches your engine)?
Just curious if you can explain this to me.
Welding the MAF onto the I/C piping would be sending hot, pressurized air/exhaust gas through the MAF, which would, in theory, give the computer false readings, causing it to lean out (intake temps too high).
Placing the BOV BEFORE the MAF sensor? Is this to de-pressurize the system before it reaches your MAF (and before it reaches your engine)?
Just curious if you can explain this to me.
check this out man http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...lowthrough+maf
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09-22-2006 | 03:54 AM
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This looks to me like the BOV is on the right side of the picture (after the final 90 degree bend) closest to the intake manifold.
The MAF sensor is on the left side right above the turbo? I wonder how that affects the readings.
09-22-2006 | 05:33 AM
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There are actually other setups where the BOV is mounted in a different place, that i dont know why but mine is mounted where that BOV on the picture is.
FOr the MAF sensor part, im not sure how the readings go for that. But the tuners tell me it works. ALso my pipings and turbo are wrapped well with heat wrap, so the temps arent as high as they were before without the heat wrap. But yea thats how the blowthrough setup looks basically. IM not to good as explaining how it works, but from what i've been reading it works.
FOr the MAF sensor part, im not sure how the readings go for that. But the tuners tell me it works. ALso my pipings and turbo are wrapped well with heat wrap, so the temps arent as high as they were before without the heat wrap. But yea thats how the blowthrough setup looks basically. IM not to good as explaining how it works, but from what i've been reading it works.
09-22-2006 | 10:43 AM
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I wouldnt trust anything those dudes on nasioc do. I would personally talk to Ed or mike and see what they reccomend.
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
09-22-2006 | 05:57 PM
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09-22-2006 | 07:03 PM
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guys... blow-through MAF's work much better than suck-through big MAF's when propperly tuned for. There are several key reasons for this that I went over in a previous thread. The reason for re-locating the BOV upstream of the MAF is so that you can go fully atmospheric without the drivability issues usually associated with doing so. If the BOV vents air before it reaches the MAF sensor, that air was never metered and the ECU never added fuel for it. Therefore the AFR will not go crazy rich and cause hesitations any time the BOV vents.
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09-22-2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lowend
http://www.replikamaschinen.com/
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09-22-2006 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EQ Tuning
guys... blow-through MAF's work much better than suck-through big MAF's when propperly tuned for. There are several key reasons for this that I went over in a previous thread. The reason for re-locating the BOV upstream of the MAF is so that you can go fully atmospheric without the drivability issues usually associated with doing so. If the BOV vents air before it reaches the MAF sensor, that air was never metered and the ECU never added fuel for it. Therefore the AFR will not go crazy rich and cause hesitations any time the BOV vents.
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Well in that case, good luck
09-22-2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ucbsti
I wouldnt trust anything those dudes on nasioc do. I would personally talk to Ed or mike and see what they reccomend.
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
Oh yea, thanks Ed for clarifying the blowthrough setup.
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09-23-2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowend
Do you know any machinest that can??
If a person really cares about welding it's not that hard - good portable spool feed is only a few hundred bucks and shoot you can practice on anything that's metal!I'm not an expert welder but the hard part about welding isn't pipes and bodywork, it's the industrial stuff like what you'd actually make a living building skyscrapers and aircraft carriers with.
09-23-2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ucbsti
I wouldnt trust anything those dudes on nasioc do. I would personally talk to Ed or mike and see what they reccomend.
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
****, there are guys on evoM pushing 900whp and running 10s (Big Al), and I STILL dont trust his t00ning or setup skills
Who's "those dudes on nasioc." PDX? UR? Topspeed? Vivid/AZscoobie? TXS? Perrin? Cobb?