Another American Beheaded
06-21-2004, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatal Velocity
First off, Bobby Thanks,
And as for the comment egarding the land of Jordan being for that Palestinians, where the **** did you hear that? ok a large number of palestinians ran to jordan as refuge's from Palestine, butI dont see where youthink that the land of jordan is for the palestinains.
AND the land of Palestine in 1948 was over run by Isralies running away from thier own problems, in Germany and Europe. Palestine Belongs to the Palestinians, and Isralies, Jews are there as refugees just as the Palestinaians are in Jordan and Kuwait etc etc. as refugees its a chain reactiona and it was all started in1948 by the Jews who couldnt stand thier own land.
And as for the comment egarding the land of Jordan being for that Palestinians, where the **** did you hear that? ok a large number of palestinians ran to jordan as refuge's from Palestine, butI dont see where youthink that the land of jordan is for the palestinains.
AND the land of Palestine in 1948 was over run by Isralies running away from thier own problems, in Germany and Europe. Palestine Belongs to the Palestinians, and Isralies, Jews are there as refugees just as the Palestinaians are in Jordan and Kuwait etc etc. as refugees its a chain reactiona and it was all started in1948 by the Jews who couldnt stand thier own land.
Second, there is absolutely no such thing as a Palestinian. Never was. It was a term made up by Arafat. Many of the people who now call themselves Palestinians are actually Jordanians, Lebonese, and Syrian. They are refugees because these three countries did not want to take them back. They wanted to fight with Isreal and these refugees were a good way to pick that fight since they could not do it on the battlefield and win. Arabs do not win many wars. They fight a lot, but not many victories.
Third, Isreal ran away from where? Europe? LMAO. Seems like these so called Palestinians ran away from their problems. Anyway, whatever they are called they do deserve a homeland after all the **** they have caused. Since Jordan/Syria/Lebanon will not take them back than sure Israel is willing to carve them a piece of land. If they hadn't continually rejected every plan that would give them a homeland we wouldn't be having this discussion.
And BTW, I have every right to label someone and ask them to leave the country as they do to make unpopular remarks. They can talk $hit about my country but I can't tell them to **** off??? How do you figure.
Anyway, just looking for the SEAL Team 3 guy to show up.
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06-21-2004, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatal Velocity
USA is under Israels Control!
USA=Israel
USA+Israel= Terrorism
all of you hear are saying you are fed up without these terrorists and how barbaric they are, well yes that sad for those Americans who have suffered and died as well as those surviving the men and women who have died. But do you think these Terrorists just woke up one day and decided to kill? NO! They are doing it cause your country and the country that your country funds has been terrorizing them for years. Honestly I'm disappointed in some of your guys's views. its sad how blind you are! Whatever I'm pissed **** this ****!
I'll say this, blowing people up in buses, café's and grocery stores isn't working. You'd think by now the Arab street would realize this is a two sided affair. But like many Arabs I know they can't resist the America+Israel= Terrorism equation. How about the Arab+Homicide Bomber=Terrorism equation? Not once have I ever hard an Arab say that other Arab nations have done absolutely NOTHING to help this cause. ZERO.
But OK, if they want to continue down this trail fine. It brings them nothing but more tears and insanity.
I notice they stopped announcing who the head of Hamas is altogether. Having two leaders assassinated in such a short time will do that to a group.
The problem is how disconnected the Arab street is to the rest of the world. They have no opportunity to discuss ideas with anyone but themselves. Arafat has not done a damn thing economically for them, but he has a bank account with $350M.
You want to place blame? Fine, as an American I can honestly say we have ****ed up some things in the ME in dealing with the Palestinians. But not because we support Israel, but because we have stood by and watched Arab country after Arab country rape its citizens and not done one damn thing to further the Palestinian cause. Condemning homicide bombings would be a good start.
You want security? Tell the Arab leaders its time to $hit or get off the pot. Coming to America and blaming us for your lot in life is your choice. The more educated portion of this society ain't buying your petty bull$hit.
It's never the Arabs fault. Always America and Israel. Yeah, that type of thinking has gotten you far.
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06-21-2004, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
. You have the stupid Americans who don't have a ****ing clue about diplomacy or taking one on the chin
Don't act like we trot around the globe bent on domination.
Americans don't have a clue about diplomacy? Please tell me one nation on the whole ****ing planet with a better ****ing diplomatic record than the U.S.?
Go ahead and research that one champ, I'll be waiting.
And BTW, when should we have taken one "on the chin?"
06-21-2004, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chaoticsoul
And BTW, I have every right to label someone and ask them to leave the country as they do to make unpopular remarks. They can talk $hit about my country but I can't tell them to **** off??? How do you figure.
Anyway, just looking for the SEAL Team 3 guy to show up.
You are correct you have every right to make an *** of your self, as do i and everyone else.
06-21-2004, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chaoticsoul
The problem is how disconnected the Arab street is to the rest of the world. They have no opportunity to discuss ideas with anyone but themselves. Arafat has not done a damn thing economically for them, but he has a bank account with $350M.
You want to place blame? Fine, as an American I can honestly say we have ****ed up some things in the ME in dealing with the Palestinians. But not because we support Israel, but because we have stood by and watched Arab country after Arab country rape its citizens and not done one damn thing to further the Palestinian cause. Condemning homicide bombings would be a good start.
You want security? Tell the Arab leaders its time to $hit or get off the pot. Coming to America and blaming us for your lot in life is your choice. The more educated portion of this society ain't buying your petty bull$hit.
It's never the Arabs fault. Always America and Israel. Yeah, that type of thinking has gotten you far.
You want to place blame? Fine, as an American I can honestly say we have ****ed up some things in the ME in dealing with the Palestinians. But not because we support Israel, but because we have stood by and watched Arab country after Arab country rape its citizens and not done one damn thing to further the Palestinian cause. Condemning homicide bombings would be a good start.
You want security? Tell the Arab leaders its time to $hit or get off the pot. Coming to America and blaming us for your lot in life is your choice. The more educated portion of this society ain't buying your petty bull$hit.
It's never the Arabs fault. Always America and Israel. Yeah, that type of thinking has gotten you far.
i agree that the major issue is those in power displacing citizens anger and attention towards isreal and america, when it should be palced firmly upon their shoulders. Hence why so many arab states do not want to see democracy so close to home, nor do they condone terror attacks, as they take those attacks and spin them to their citizens as freedom fighters against the greater evil. Much in the way america is doing the same thing now, a country that lives in fear is a country that is easily controlled, i find it amusing that we are marching down somewhat of hte same path here as those arabs overseas have been for the last 80 years or so.
Leaders who control their people by fear deserve to be ousted. I just hope that hte common arab can see this with time. (it will take a while, most allready know their goverments are corrupt and way to top heavy)
just my two cents.
06-21-2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chaoticsoul
I got news for you genius. Millions of people do not come swarming our borders to be free because we take it "on the chin" from tyrants and barbarians.
Don't act like we trot around the globe bent on domination.
Americans don't have a clue about diplomacy? Please tell me one nation on the whole ****ing planet with a better ****ing diplomatic record than the U.S.?
Go ahead and research that one champ, I'll be waiting.
And BTW, when should we have taken one "on the chin?"
Don't act like we trot around the globe bent on domination.
Americans don't have a clue about diplomacy? Please tell me one nation on the whole ****ing planet with a better ****ing diplomatic record than the U.S.?
Go ahead and research that one champ, I'll be waiting.
And BTW, when should we have taken one "on the chin?"
dont get it twisted, millions of people flood our borders cause we have money, if CUBA had our economy millions of people would be flooding their shores.
And recent policies from our goverment would make it seem that we are hell bent on domination.
And well i think my post was completely lost on you from the get go..
06-21-2004, 11:50 AM
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for those of you arent familiar with the word "hegemony", look it up.
the US stands alone. of course we are bent on domination. that has been the American way since the fall of the major Euro powers after WWII. With the collapse of the USSR, we stood atop the hegemonic heap.
the US stands alone. of course we are bent on domination. that has been the American way since the fall of the major Euro powers after WWII. With the collapse of the USSR, we stood atop the hegemonic heap.
06-21-2004, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
dont get it twisted, millions of people flood our borders cause we have money, if CUBA had our economy millions of people would be flooding their shores.
And recent policies from our goverment would make it seem that we are hell bent on domination.
And well i think my post was completely lost on you from the get go..
And recent policies from our goverment would make it seem that we are hell bent on domination.
And well i think my post was completely lost on you from the get go..
What policies make it seem to you that we are on a world domination kick?
Your post wasn't lost on me, I am just asking for specifics to a diatribe that you wrote.
06-21-2004, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
for those of you arent familiar with the word "hegemony", look it up.
the US stands alone. of course we are bent on domination. that has been the American way since the fall of the major Euro powers after WWII. With the collapse of the USSR, we stood atop the hegemonic heap.
the US stands alone. of course we are bent on domination. that has been the American way since the fall of the major Euro powers after WWII. With the collapse of the USSR, we stood atop the hegemonic heap.
06-21-2004, 11:57 AM
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Uh, really? Enlighten me... who can compare to our might? Is there a world superpower I have never heard of???
BTW, reading is fundamental. I spent 4 years studying this ish and am well-versed in this area. I would love to entertain you with my liberal fallacies
BTW, reading is fundamental. I spent 4 years studying this ish and am well-versed in this area. I would love to entertain you with my liberal fallacies
06-21-2004, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dub2w
Uh, really? Enlighten me... who can compare to our might? Is there a world superpower I have never heard of???
BTW, reading is fundamental. I spent 4 years studying this ish and am well-versed in this area. I would love to entertain you with my liberal fallacies
BTW, reading is fundamental. I spent 4 years studying this ish and am well-versed in this area. I would love to entertain you with my liberal fallacies
06-21-2004, 12:12 PM
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I would say that a penumbra exists between the two. Though in a sense it was by default, economic policies designed to bring new life into Europe were also creativelty structured so that America was always one-up.
Then, look to our southern neighbors in Latin America. We conquered that region over a hundred years ago and have done a fantastic job of keepin them down. When reasonable politicians came into office and attempted to loosen the US economic stranglehold on their given countries (Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, Cuba...) the US retaliated by either a: imposing sanstions or b: getting rid of them altogether (such as the CIA involvement in the coup against Allende in Chile, thus bringing in one of the true monsters of the modern-era = Gen. Pinochet)
Next we have Africa... well, they offer no challenge and have few resources so we simply step over that issue like a muddy puddle (after all, what do we have to gain by helping them fight malnutrition, AIDs, and corruption??)
Segwaying us perfectly to the ME. If it is not clear to you why we are there then I wont take the time to explain. I am eagerly awaiting the title for our newest OP... but I cant think of anything funny that rhymes with Saudi
Then, look to our southern neighbors in Latin America. We conquered that region over a hundred years ago and have done a fantastic job of keepin them down. When reasonable politicians came into office and attempted to loosen the US economic stranglehold on their given countries (Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, Cuba...) the US retaliated by either a: imposing sanstions or b: getting rid of them altogether (such as the CIA involvement in the coup against Allende in Chile, thus bringing in one of the true monsters of the modern-era = Gen. Pinochet)
Next we have Africa... well, they offer no challenge and have few resources so we simply step over that issue like a muddy puddle (after all, what do we have to gain by helping them fight malnutrition, AIDs, and corruption??)
Segwaying us perfectly to the ME. If it is not clear to you why we are there then I wont take the time to explain. I am eagerly awaiting the title for our newest OP... but I cant think of anything funny that rhymes with Saudi
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