Does nothing except let the government see who's buying ammo to prevent a revolt from happening. I do see one in the near future with the way he's trying to socialize everything.

 

Our Forefathers fled from a place like Oakland.. A place where the tax payer got screwed and Criminals were protected (only in old Europe the protected criminals were called "Duke" and "Prince" and "Earl" instead of Councilman, or Mayor.

Tracking ammo doesn't do a damn thing... Just like Gun control is worthless..
Here's an idea... Why not just make Murder illegal??? That would prevent Gang bangers from killing each other.. What's that Lassie?? Lil Timmy fell down the well??? Oh wait Criminals don't follow the laws!? (hence the title."Criminal")

 

What; and Only Vote Once!!!?!?!!

 

Then making these laws would... lets see... waste our legislatures time, waste our ****ing tax payer $$, and still be pointless.

Dumb legislature turns the government into a stupid body.

 

Yeah OK, we need better training too, but if you cant even get a sports car driver to understand that heavy cars are dangerous, then your screwed.

And they don't allow semi-truck to pass each other, they have to stay in the right lane, drivers get out of the way in the fast lane instinctively. and the average driver is NOT in an 6,000 pound SUV with 6 inch brakes. (that has to have something t do with right??)

 

i dont want to pay for the deficit that is being made

 

without reading the bill, I cant comment, but how is cap & trade bad?

I dont see it. Sure, pollution levels dont necessarily drop immediately, but they do over time and creates an incentive for companies to keep pollution down. Tell me again how that is bad?

Serioulsy, I dont know. Please help me if my understanding is wrong.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html

Is that all that is bad about it? Cap and trade is a good start to me.

 

they are talking about an extra $3k+ per year per household in increases! thats somebodys car payment or maybe even money for their kids education! we are in a god damn reccession, unemployment is through the roof and all u damn liberals are thanking obama for being so great! damn bill only passed by 7 votes, one of which was some clown that was pulled out of ****ing REHAB to vote on the democratic side and who knows what other winners! WHAT?!?!

and as far as guns & ammo are concerned...i want my gun to protect myself from our own government, u know the one that owns car companies and prbly has shares in freakin lightbulbs!

if the media hadnt blanketed Ron Paul, we might actually be back on the right track

 

What is up with you people that are for Cap and Trade? My energy bills are already high enough to make me consider doing everything possible to lower them. I have low-flow shower heads and toilets, high effeciency washer/dryer, dual pane windows. As soon as I can afford it I'm going to a tankless water heater and solar power. If you really want to do something to urge me on then do something that lowers the ridiculous price of solar panels and their installation!

Here's the real deal. Big oil, big auto, and GE are behind this bill. Ask yourself why. Do they want you to become more energy efficient in order to save the environment or do they want to make more money? I think if you do some soul searching and drop the goody goody pretense, you'll get it. Who wouldn't want to sell less and make more money doing it?

Over the last couple of decades we have become a society obsessed with lowering our carbon footprint and doing what we can to preserve the natural environment. We get it. We're working on it. We don't need outrageous scams like this!

 

debate tip #1: never use Glen Beck, let alone Fox news, to support your so called well reasoned argument.

 

No.. There were SUV's there, trucks too though most of the large family vehicles were Large BMW/Mercedes Station wagons (usually diesel).. and alot of the BMW/Mercedes/etc are heavy vehicles..

Semi-trucks were allowed to pass each other, but you are right that getting in the right lane was mandatory when feasible.

The big deal was who was allowed to drive. The standards are tougher to get a license..
You didn't have 16 year olds driving Vettes and Suburbans on their cell phones.. You didn't have illegal's driving.. (couldn't register a car without a license can't get a license without the training.)

 

The Autobahn, has generally fewer cars and better freeways, yes I've been there, and LAWS are enforced, if you pass someone on the right, the guy on the left gets a ticket for obstructing traffic!

If you get in an accident, I did so I know, both parties get tickets because there is SOMETHING that you could've done to avoid it.

They have high gas prices, to pay for medical care, and so fewer long distance commuters. The country is smaller so they can have a very tightly laced train system public transit - this is not practical in the USA right now, but it means less cars on the road, lower traffic density.

Pointing to Europe and saying "see" isn't a very effective argument. Their Freeways are better than ours, and everyone keeps right. BTW, in case you didn't know, the Autobahn is not always "any speed" it depends on traffic density - there are overhead signs on the on ramps that tell you what the speed is at the moment.

In short, better freeways, lower traffic density, enforced traffic laws, public that puts up with it.

I have searched the Internet for about 20 mins, where did you see that Injury is 27% lower in GE? I can find almost no GE only stats, but please notice that I said DEATHS, not Injury, and I said Europe not GE specifically, where they have better roads...try the UK, where they have worse roads or Italy or haha, Denmark - what a nightmare, or France.

No I don't own a sports car...i own a "sporty" car, ask my insurance company.

 

1. If nature is supplying 30 times the Greenhouse gas emissions than mankind, then what difference does that make?

2. You are talking about pollution, not CO2. I agree that catalytic converts (one of them) and factory scrubbers (one of them) have GREATLY improved air quality in the US - a scrubber reduces pollution output by 50% (it also costs about 50% more power to run with them but clean air is more important, right?). Cats on a car reduce toxic emissions by approx 95% a second cat cuts it down 1-2% more...that second CAT is not cost effective, your return on investment is minor.

3. If you want to go after the big polluters, it's not the commuters anymore - it's the factories, they have only decreased pollution in manufacturing by 50%, they are not nearly as efficient as cars are. The serious threats to the environment though is the transportation (nobody talks about the fact coal is moved cross country in open topped train cars - there's a joke in there somewhere) and burning of coal - the greatest source of both radiation and mercury that you will ever come into contact with...microscopic coal dust.

Using credits for CO2 emissions is a waste of time, especially for individual consumers, that same money could be much better spent for a greater good, get rid of COAL fired power plants...outlaw moving coal in open containers, match homeowners 1:1 for re-insulating their homes - direct reduction in the amount of energy consumed.

Those are things, not the only ones, but good ones, that spend money wisely...this is not wise.