Air Injection Solenoids and why you get a CEL
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Crud I just got this CEL P1410 on my 06 WRX wagon (97k miles) today. Wierd that not only did the CEL come on, but the Cruise did too... not sure what's going on there.
So I cleared the code with the Cobb AP (I'm stage 1, no engine mods) and for the rest of my commute it didn't come back.
Does anyone know if Subaru is now warrantying this for emission yet?
So I cleared the code with the Cobb AP (I'm stage 1, no engine mods) and for the rest of my commute it didn't come back.
Does anyone know if Subaru is now warrantying this for emission yet?
Subaru is not and will not warranty this item, they claim its NOT emissions (which it is) but not by their standards.
The CEL will come back, just a matter of time.
-Noah
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I've read as long as the car is good and warmed up, then it should pass the sniffer test in emissions even if the pump is removed (with proper block off plate). Is this true?
Also, has it ever been a problem with visual inspection? I mean a deleted pump would look like a 02-05 WRX.
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thanks for the response!
I've read as long as the car is good and warmed up, then it should pass the sniffer test in emissions even if the pump is removed (with proper block off plate). Is this true?
Also, has it ever been a problem with visual inspection? I mean a deleted pump would look like a 02-05 WRX.
I've read as long as the car is good and warmed up, then it should pass the sniffer test in emissions even if the pump is removed (with proper block off plate). Is this true?
Also, has it ever been a problem with visual inspection? I mean a deleted pump would look like a 02-05 WRX.
We have made plates that are stealth and keep everything hooked up so there is nothing to see (if you wish to go that route): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
as you can see, nothing to see (its sandwiched in-between):
if you wish to see them:
-Noah
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For emissions purposes it all needs to be there and you can't have a CEL and pass emissions with that. We still recommend replacing the solenoids on stock cars.
We have made plates that are stealth and keep everything hooked up so there is nothing to see (if you wish to go that route): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
-Noah
We have made plates that are stealth and keep everything hooked up so there is nothing to see (if you wish to go that route): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
-Noah
- does the system show a CEL P1410 because of the block off plate?
- since it's blocked off, does that prevent further deterioration due to gunk?
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So sorry... let me reconfirm then. If I get your stealth plates, and perhaps clean out my current system before it totally goes bad:
- does the system show a CEL P1410 because of the block off plate?
- since it's blocked off, does that prevent further deterioration due to gunk?
- does the system show a CEL P1410 because of the block off plate?
- since it's blocked off, does that prevent further deterioration due to gunk?
In addition you don't want to unhook the electrical connections, as those solenoids are pressure sensors and the ECU needs to read them.
We list more info here (street use vs. track use): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
-Noah
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Once you have the code(s) they will need to be turned off...
In addition you don't want to unhook the electrical connections, as those solenoids are pressure sensors and the ECU needs to read them.
We list more info here (street use vs. track use): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
-Noah
In addition you don't want to unhook the electrical connections, as those solenoids are pressure sensors and the ECU needs to read them.
We list more info here (street use vs. track use): LIC Motorsports Air Pump Delete Plates (06+ WRX, 08+ STi) Subaru LIC 073109 | Buy Online from LIC Motorsports
-Noah
So... how dangerous is it for me to drive around for the next few days until I can get to you shop?
Also, since I have a mostly stock 06 WRX, then I understand wanting to just fix the system; and silly as it is. I probably will have to go this route. But I also have a AP stage 1, so how much more is this going to cost to get the codes cleared, and to install the block off plates inbetween as pictured? Keeping the system is clearly for visual inspection; as the 06 (I think) does not have the atmospheric sensors.
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It can wait a little bit, as most don't take care of it same day but it should be corrected soon (either replacement of solenoids, which is recommended or use of block off plates).
We are by appointment for installs and are currently booked a few weeks out at the moment...feel free to call to make an appointment for the future if you like.
-Noah
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