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Old 10-26-2005 | 07:29 AM
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Hey that rhymed! that was like....poetic

Thank you very much for the compliment and such.

I have decided to start rhyming all of my replies, thinking up rhymes sure makes the time fly.
Old 10-26-2005 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureSTIer
To make 120k off NASIOC is pretty crazy, but not unbelievable. Obliviously Nick is skimping by hosting it in house or maybe he just has the God mentality. It's very typical in the computer world. Looks like he wasn't being smart about it. You know Florida, loss of power, servers in house, Florida, hurricanes, etc.

None the less, if I was a vendor or advertiser on the website I would review my agreement with Nick because being down two weeks to who knows how long could be a lot of lost business especially right before Christmas. Granted I don't know how many wives or girlfriends get on NASIOC to go Christmas shopping but you know what I mean.

NASIOC's popularity is truly based off OT. Advertising is based on bandwidth and hits and that is where his advertising comes from. It has a lot of good technical articles, but I think it's based off the sheer numbers. People are attracted to sheer numbers, it's called herdism. I firmly believe if i-club did the same maybe the present would be different. For some reason I don't think i-club members want it any different which is even better.

The only one who nows how much he makes is Nick. Does that make him a *****?

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Old 10-26-2005 | 07:40 AM
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Running that site out of his house is just ridiculous. If the site is that profitable, he is an idiot, moron for running it out of his house. I may not go back there.
Old 10-26-2005 | 07:55 AM
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Running that site out of his house is just ridiculous. If the site is that profitable, he is an idiot, moron for running it out of his house. I may not go back there.
Exactly...If he makes 120k or 12k he is still an idiot.
Old 10-26-2005 | 08:49 AM
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Here's what I don't understand (and don't flame me, this is just my opinion). From some of these posts and noting that many people miss it, NASIOC offers a very important service to both the users and the vendors. Why on earth is everyone so angry that the guy makes money from it? Nothing in this world is free and virtually anything worth doing is worth doing for profit. It's simple capitalism.

I applaud the guy for inventing a better mousetrap. That said, he definitely should have been hosting his site in a datacenter. While many hosting companies in South Florida might be having trouble with telecommunications down, because they have a contract to host a particular site, the onus is on them to find another temporary host. In other words, it becomes their problem. We host several customer sites with a local web host. I wouldn't even dream of trying to run them out of my house or even my office.

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Originally Posted by writersblock
Here's what I don't understand (and don't flame me, this is just my opinion). From some of these posts and noting that many people miss it, NASIOC offers a very important service to both the users and the vendors. Why on earth is everyone so angry that the guy makes money from it? Nothing in this world is free and virtually anything worth doing is worth doing for profit. It's simple capitalism.

I applaud the guy for inventing a better mousetrap. That said, he definitely should have been hosting his site in a datacenter. While many hosting companies in South Florida might be having trouble with telecommunications down, because they have a contract to host a particular site, the onus is on them to find another temporary host. In other words, it becomes their problem. We host several customer sites with a local web host. I wouldn't even dream of trying to run them out of my house or even my office.

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I think you may be missing the point people are trying to make. It's not that he makes money from it. It's that he makes money and STILL hosts it from his house in Florida even after numerous people have asked/complained that it should be done in a proper Data Center.

Good for him he makes money from it, but if I were a vendor on that site and was looking at 2 weeks of downtime I would be pissed especially paying what some of them pay for Vendor/Mod status.
Old 10-26-2005 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by writersblock
Here's what I don't understand (and don't flame me, this is just my opinion). From some of these posts and noting that many people miss it, NASIOC offers a very important service to both the users and the vendors. Why on earth is everyone so angry that the guy makes money from it? Nothing in this world is free and virtually anything worth doing is worth doing for profit. It's simple capitalism.
I never said I was angry at the guy, just that I didn't much see why he was hosting the site out of his basement when solutions worlds better are readily available.

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I applaud the guy for inventing a better mousetrap.
Yup, it definitely caught him good.

Originally Posted by writesblock
That said, he definitely should have been hosting his site in a datacenter. While many hosting companies in South Florida might be having trouble with telecommunications down, because they have a contract to host a particular site, the onus is on them to find another temporary host. In other words, it becomes their problem.
Besides the fact that what you just said makes absolutely no sense at all... I'll put off my comments for 2 more sentences.

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We host several customer sites with a local web host. I wouldn't even dream of trying to run them out of my house or even my office.
Most "web hosting" companies are in some fashion a reseller, in the worst of cases you end up being a customer of a customer of a customer of the data center, and that can be very frustrating when something is going on. Enter colocation: your equipment and the data center's power, space, and network. The data center you choose is important, its facilities are what make it or break it. Battery backups, on-site emergency generator, 24/7 customer access, etc. Half the time a customer of a data center is no where near the center, thus most offer some type of remote hands service.

In all honesty, Nick is having to work too much. And the price he's paying to have such a great internet connection at home with which to host NASIOC, well, let's just say it might actually be cheaper to host at a data center.
Old 10-26-2005 | 10:39 AM
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Thats awfully funny, cuz last time I checked, Alex uses the same ****. If you are gonna bash NASIOC, you should at least make it legit.
It's pretty obvious Alex uses it as well but thanks for pointing that out.

How is the use of Adsense and that ridiculous keyword program bashing? I run adsense on 5 different websites and manage to pay for monthly gas and groceries. I see nothing wrong with Alex and Nick making money off their unique and adsense happy visitors. It's business and a perk of running a popular site.

My point is that if I was practically guranteed $100 a day from those programs for the rest of my life so long as they aren't being abused per Google's adsense rules, then I’d have my server made of Titanium in Ft. Knox.
Old 10-26-2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverScoober02
I think you may be missing the point people are trying to make. It's not that he makes money from it. It's that he makes money and STILL hosts it from his house in Florida even after numerous people have asked/complained that it should be done in a proper Data Center.
Exactly. It's no way to protect an investment.
Old 10-26-2005 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FutureSTIer
To make 120k off NASIOC is pretty crazy, but not unbelievable. Obliviously Nick is skimping by hosting it in house or maybe he just has the God mentality.

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Old 10-26-2005 | 10:52 AM
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Old 10-26-2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joltdudeuc
So..

2 vendors would cover... he has what? about 30?

most vendors pay about $150/mo (some pay more), $1800x30 is about $54,000 a year... But we know that many vendors pay more than that, and then you put the ads and all that other crap in there. With him hosting from his OWN hosting company, you can see he can easily afford it, but wants to get as much money as he possibly can.

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last count i saw was that he had about 120 or so vendors...

and by all means his hosting company is based on the butter he makes from nasioc...

if it wasnt for iclub there would be no nasioc, which means there would be no fusiondesigns or what ever the hell he calls his bs hosting/web design firm (their portfolio is horrible)....
Old 10-26-2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by writersblock
Here's what I don't understand (and don't flame me, this is just my opinion). From some of these posts and noting that many people miss it, NASIOC offers a very important service to both the users and the vendors. Why on earth is everyone so angry that the guy makes money from it? Nothing in this world is free and virtually anything worth doing is worth doing for profit. It's simple capitalism.

I applaud the guy for inventing a better mousetrap. That said, he definitely should have been hosting his site in a datacenter. While many hosting companies in South Florida might be having trouble with telecommunications down, because they have a contract to host a particular site, the onus is on them to find another temporary host. In other words, it becomes their problem. We host several customer sites with a local web host. I wouldn't even dream of trying to run them out of my house or even my office.

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Angry because he pawns him self off as a sort of "liberator" type. A person who built and maintains the site free of charge so that he can continue his love of subarus... Which is bull****

Call it how it is, nick you are in it for the money, nothing less nothing more.

always have been and always will be
Old 10-26-2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
never said i didnt...

stupid *** Midatlantic folks dont hop on iclub..


anyone else notice how it looks like nick tried to spell l33t?

Over-generalize much?




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sweet was wondering where the flock would end up... see i just came home to BAIC


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