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Old 10-25-2005, 10:39 PM
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hmm must have my "*****y *** network *****" filter on still....

You sure that is nicks provider? i had different results running trace rtes..
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:44 PM
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At least he has 1 T from them:

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22:41:51 0 $ traceroute forums.nasioc.com
traceroute to forums.nasioc.com (69.54.240.19), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.721 ms  4.384 ms  6.933 ms
 2  * * *
 3  68.87.197.157 (68.87.197.157)  13.512 ms  14.973 ms  15.627 ms
 4  68.87.192.205 (68.87.192.205)  9.601 ms  32.947 ms  9.906 ms
 5  68.87.192.201 (68.87.192.201)  14.093 ms  10.563 ms  39.339 ms
 6  68.87.192.197 (68.87.192.197)  14.729 ms  10.152 ms  24.929 ms
 7  68.87.195.62 (68.87.195.62)  20.484 ms  13.506 ms  12.163 ms
 8  12.124.35.65 (12.124.35.65)  40.830 ms  9.126 ms  15.789 ms
 9  tbr1-p010201.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.150)  80.365 ms  75.182 ms  75.133 ms
10  tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net (12.122.10.26)  77.950 ms  81.769 ms  77.667 ms
11  tbr1-cl20.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.10.49)  105.919 ms  74.259 ms  78.854 ms
12  tbr2-cl12.hs1tx.ip.att.net (12.122.10.130)  89.970 ms  76.268 ms  78.968 ms
13  tbr1-p013601.hs1tx.ip.att.net (12.122.9.169)  78.096 ms  84.196 ms  77.527 ms
14  tbr1-cl1476.ormfl.ip.att.net (12.122.4.102)  76.761 ms  75.333 ms  76.651 ms
15  12.122.81.161 (12.122.81.161)  75.647 ms  79.245 ms  75.148 ms
16  ftldfl-02-pos9-0-0.xspedius.net (12.119.94.18)  74.230 ms  74.304 ms  75.847 ms
17  216.84.219.50 (216.84.219.50)  79.577 ms  78.934 ms  77.934 ms
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damn, you guys know way too much about this ****...

i thought i was cool for setting up a wireless router.























actually, scott set that up.
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Tracert to 69.54.240.21
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com at 05:59:47 GMT on 26 Oct 2005.
Hop	T1	T2	T3	Best	Graph	IP	Hostname	Dist	TTL	Ctry	Time
1	0	0	0	0.4 ms	66.36.240.2 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 c-vl102-d1.acc.dca2.hopone.net.	 	255	US	Unknown: 849521c7
2	0	1	0	0.4 ms [+0ms]	66.36.224.242 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 ge5-0.core1.dca2.hopone.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	254	US	Unknown: 815c8035
3	1	1	1	1.6 ms [+1ms]	66.36.224.18 AS3 MIT-GATEWAYS	 ge3-0.core1.iad1.hopone.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	253	US	Unknown: 8149e7fa
4	2	2	2	2.0 ms [+0ms]	206.223.115.47 AS8153 NORTELRCH2	 eq-ash.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	61	US	[Router did not respond]
5	7	2	2	2.0 ms [+0ms]	63.223.24.21 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 ash-a00.gige-5-1.lan-ash-b01-ge-1-3.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	251	US	Unix: 5:59:53.347
6	5	9	2	2.8 ms [+0ms]	63.223.24.17 AS714 APPLE-ENGINEERING	 ash-c00.pos1-34-1.lan-ash-a00-pos1-0.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	249	US	Unknown: fed12b69
7	18	19	18	17 ms [+15ms]	63.223.0.245 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 atl-c00.pos-1-33-1.oc48-pos-1-6-1-ash-a00.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	248	US	Unix: 3:58:22.753
8	30	18	18	17 ms [+0ms]	63.223.8.58 AS7470 ASIAINFO-AS-AP	 atl-a00.pos-10-0.lan-atl-c00.pos-1-36-1.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	248	US	Unix: 5:59:53.487
9	43	25	17	17 ms [+0ms]	63.223.8.194 AS8422 NETCOLOGNE	 peer.atl-b02-ge-1-4.wvfiber.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	246	US	Unix: 5:59:53.516
10	31	18	19	18 ms [+0ms]	216.22.67.153 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 atlngamq1m6-so-6-0-0.ip.epik.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	245	US	Unix: 5:59:53.547
11	39	23	24	23 ms [+4ms]	216.22.67.253 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 jcvlflnj2m6-so-3-0-0.ip.epik.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	244	US	[Router did not respond]
12	45	32	32	32 ms [+9ms]	216.22.67.229 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 miamfllr1m6-so-3-0-0.ip.epik.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	246	US	[Router did not respond]
13	45	32	32	32 ms [+0ms]	216.22.64.26 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 miamfllrh07-custbr-knotdata.ip.epik.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	246	US	Unix: 5:59:53.677
14	37	35	35	35 ms [+2ms]	206.162.225.21 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 mia-mdv.ilcs.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	245	US	Unknown: 80a62c96
15	*	*	*	99999 ms [+99999ms]	[Unknown]	[Unknown - Firewall did not respond]	 0 miles [+0] 	 	 	 
16	*	*	*	99999 ms [+0ms]	[Unknown]	[Unknown - Firewall did not respond]	 0 miles [+0]

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Old 10-25-2005, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
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Tracert to 69.54.240.21

14	37	35	35	35 ms [+2ms]	206.162.225.21 AS0 IANA-RSVD-0	 mia-mdv.ilcs.net.	 0 miles [+0] 	245	US	Unknown: 80a62c96
15	*	*	*	99999 ms [+99999ms]	[Unknown]	[Unknown - Firewall did not respond]	 0 miles [+0] 	 	 	 
16	*	*	*	99999 ms [+0ms]	[Unknown]	[Unknown - Firewall did not respond]	 0 miles [+0]

I get the same trace from a machine @ HurricaneElectric, as well as from Level 3. The trace that goes through xspedia is from my Comcast cable modem and sourced via Savvis.

Clearly theres some multihoming going on.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:14 PM
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yupo... point is

DONT RUN A LARGE WEBSITE FROM YOUR HOME OR SOME ****TY *** DATACENTER

ESP IF IT MAKES YOU OVER 120K A YEAR!
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3

ESP IF IT MAKES YOU OVER 120K A YEAR!
at that price you can have your own cage...
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:30 PM
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at that price in some parts of america you can damn near buy the data center...
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:42 PM
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Hahahahah.... Gotta love it. He's definitely comfortable due to the site, that's for ****ing sure.

But, he's the godfather! Let him revel in his downtime. :P

Can we get some redundancy here?
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:39 AM
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i say he sells it to someone who knows how to run a ****ing server

for real though, i would invest in nasioc, think about it, 120k a year, say he sells it for 1 mil, in 9 years or so, you'd make your money back, hell if your smart and can somehow make even MORE money, like how myspace has, you might even triple your profit.

its not a fast return, but it definitely is a long term investment.

but then again, some web forums dont seem to last as long, for all i know nasioc could be gone within the next 5 years, might be a risky investment. regardless, FIND A BETTER SERVER!
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Originally Posted by dr3d1zzl3
AGAIN THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER HOST A ****ING LARGE WEBSITE FROM YOUR ****ING HOME

NICK IS A ****ING CERTIFIED IDIOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME I HAVE TOLD HIM ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS THAT HE NEEDS TO MOVE THAT **** TO A GOD DAMN PROPER DATA CENTER!!!!!!!!!

HE EVEN TOLD EVERYONE HE HAD MOVED IT TO A DATA CENTER

I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE DAMN REPORT ON NANOG OR ANYWHERE ELSE STATING THAT ANYTHING ABOVE RESIDENTIAL SERVICE IS OUT, EVEN THAT I HAVENT SEEN.. but you can bet your *** if a few oc's dropped there would be crying on nanog about it...
Hey Dre...tell us how you really feel
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Originally Posted by kenny08
i say he sells it to someone who knows how to run a ****ing server

for real though, i would invest in nasioc, think about it, 120k a year, say he sells it for 1 mil, in 9 years or so, you'd make your money back, hell if your smart and can somehow make even MORE money, like how myspace has, you might even triple your profit.

its not a fast return, but it definitely is a long term investment.

but then again, some web forums dont seem to last as long, for all i know nasioc could be gone within the next 5 years, might be a risky investment. regardless, FIND A BETTER SERVER!
Damn I still can't get over how he makes so much money off of his membership and vendors. He talks about being such a great and sacrificing guy in his Subiespurt interview.

Alex is the TRUE GODFATHER...Nick is a pretender to the throne!

i-Club is 10,000,000 times greater then Nasioc in almost every way other than Unabomber's Manifesto. Better people, better mods, more fun.
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Old 10-26-2005, 02:56 AM
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Don't forget Adsense and that ghey program that pulls keywords from post text (not sure the name). Not sure how many unique visitors Nick gets a day but i'm sure he's making $50+++ a day on adsense alone. Maybe even $100+ a day? If I was guranteed that much cash a day for practically nothing then i'd have a server made of Titanium.
Thats awfully funny, cuz last time I checked, Alex uses the same ****. If you are gonna bash NASIOC, you should at least make it legit.
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Originally Posted by bpang1
Damn I still can't get over how he makes so much money off of his membership and vendors. He talks about being such a great and sacrificing guy in his Subiespurt interview.

Alex is the TRUE GODFATHER...Nick is a pretender to the throne!

i-Club is 10,000,000 times greater then Nasioc in almost every way other than Unabomber's Manifesto. Better people, better mods, more fun.

Subiesport..Thats the magazine for the Seattle crew?
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jewpac42
Thats awfully funny, cuz last time I checked, Alex uses the same ****. If you are gonna bash NASIOC, you should at least make it legit.
I love the people that come on here and blow Nick and NASIOC. Alex may use adsense but he doesn't profit from this site like Nick apparently does....AND I-Club is run out of a proper Data Center without making much money.

Anybody with half a brain can see that it takes a real moron to run the site the way Nick does. ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA! That really stands out in my mind.

We would still call him and idiot if he ran the site from his house in say Kentucky where you really don't have to worry about stuff like hurricanes ALL THE DAMN TIME! But he would be a little less of an idiot.
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